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  2.16.2017 NJ Star-Ledger Ad: "Were you sexually abused by the Jehovahs Witnesses?"

  by breakfast of champions in

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  2. child-abuse

  my wife found this 1/4 page ad on page 2 of yesterday's nj star-ledger, probably the biggest newspaper in nj.

  pretty telling.. .

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  Richard I think he is saying that you do not stop as Albert Einstein said "the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results."

  You have been coming on this thread over and over and over and over trying to drive your point home in as many ways as you can to people who are not associated with the law firm that has clearly by your posts really upset you, to the point that you have spent an enormous amount of time and research trying to convince people, people who did not post the ads or have anything to do with placing the ads who are just merely talking about the ads and voicing their opinions in a way that you have very, very, very, clearly and strongly told us that you feel is not right.

  I think everyone who has read your posts on this thread get it by now that you feel and to use your own words that this is a huge "uphill battle for these lawyers. They may win, but it won't be easy." "My only contention is that this is going to be extremely hard even if they win, it is not a slam dunk for future cases. People have to realize that." "But it is going to a long hard battle. People have to be ready for that. Even the Lopez case started in 2012 that is 5 years now and it is going it hasn't even gone to trial yet."

  Those are just a few of your posts on this thread. I think everyone gets your point very clearly but to keep telling us over and over and over your view does you or anyone who reads your post any good now. We get what you mean but it is starting to come off like you are a little obsessed over this and you just cannot let it go or expect the fact that others may have a different view than you do.

  Thus you are coming off like what Albert Einstein said. You really truly need to call the law firm instead of telling us. WE DID NOT PLACE THE AIDS! The law firm did for you to keep telling us every chance you get that this is really long shot after awhile makes you appear a little nutty, sorry.

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  Is it just me ? 2 threads debating page after page with one individual ?

  by smiddy in

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  is it just me who doesnt see the point of this ?

  from time to time we see some individual who takes up page after page arguing his or her point of view and it usually ends up with only 2 or 3 individuals who keep the talkfest going with a particular individual and nobodys getting anything out of it .. why bother ?

  why get sucked in to such a pointless dialogue ?

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  I used to when I first started and I usually now just ignore them, they are just really a waste of my life, the saying those convinced against their will are of the same opinion still.

  I do have to admit I just got into it with a poster who was trying to throw a wet blanket on the thread started by BoC about the law firm putting up the ad's. To me this is just really important and if this guy succeeds in scary people from even trying,which really appears to be his goal it just makes me crazy. The subject of the pedophiles is so close to me that for someone to try to stop it like he is coming off as doing makes me lose it. I do agree that it is just a huge waste of time to debate them.
  
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  2.16.2017 NJ Star-Ledger Ad: "Were you sexually abused by the Jehovahs Witnesses?"

  by breakfast of champions in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  my wife found this 1/4 page ad on page 2 of yesterday's nj star-ledger, probably the biggest newspaper in nj.

  pretty telling.. .

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  Richard call them and tell them that. You are so sure of it, call them. Why are you telling us over and over and over how you feel, we can't do anything about your view anymore than you can about the ones you feel this will be a slam dunk, and that it will be easy wins.

  All you have to do is call them instead debating everyone on here and telling them that they are wrong in being hopeful. Just call the law firm the number is listed. Why are you wasting your time and effort by telling us yet again how your strongly feel this is a very tough battle and that it will be very hard for them. Tell them that "the Lopez case started in 2012 that is 5 years now and it is going it hasn't even gone to trial yet."

  Tell them that you are very worried to the point that you have spent hours on a web sight trying to convince other of this "What will be sad though is if they use some of their weaker cases and use that to build up their stronger ones. By putting their clients through the emotional toll and getting their hopes up, even though they don't have a lot of faith that a win could occur. Some firms do that especially if they think that a bigger payday is waiting for them in future, stronger cases. Not saying that they will do it, but if they do it will be very sad for those clients." Tell them that they have a tough hill to climb and that you seriously do not think it will work out and that you are very, worried.

  Just call the law firm, tell them all that is clearly eating at you please quit telling us who can do nothing about it over and over and over. You really just need to call them, I am sure they will have someone that you can talk to tomorrow. You really need to take this to someone who can do something about it most of us can not do anything as we are not part of this law firm and telling us is doing no good.

  I just beg of you to please quit trying to discourage us. Feel the way you do but please stop telling us.

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  2.16.2017 NJ Star-Ledger Ad: "Were you sexually abused by the Jehovahs Witnesses?"

  by breakfast of champions in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  my wife found this 1/4 page ad on page 2 of yesterday's nj star-ledger, probably the biggest newspaper in nj.

  pretty telling.. .

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  I did call them today and they were very nice, I live on the west coast and the man I spoke to today was surprised to hear that we know about it already as they are only targeting the east coast, New York In particular. I just have to say that if you live in their area and have any info that they could use I encourage you to call. He was very nice but the laws in my state are not the same as what NY is and really there was nothing that I could add expect that I know we have pedophiles in my hall and that I have the police and court records of them.

  He was very kind and thanked me for calling. I am just really hoping that this is truly the tip of the iceberg.

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  TV commercial seen in the United States, from a Law firm "Asking if you were ever sexually abused by JEHOVAHS WITNESSES, please call".

  by Dunedain in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  ok, so i don't know if this is "old news", and if this has been seen, and or mentioned already.

  if it was, i do apologize, but i feel i have to mention what has been seen on tv, within the past 24 hours.. first off, i would like to say that i did not personally see this commercial.

  however, it was seen by someone that i can verify 100% is telling the truth, as it was my own father who saw it.

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  Thank you this is just wonderful this and what BoC just posted I hope is only just the start.

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  2.16.2017 NJ Star-Ledger Ad: "Were you sexually abused by the Jehovahs Witnesses?"

  by breakfast of champions in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  my wife found this 1/4 page ad on page 2 of yesterday's nj star-ledger, probably the biggest newspaper in nj.

  pretty telling.. .

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  I am just so thankful that this has come out. I am truly hoping this is just the tip of the iceberg for them.

  Thank you BoC so much.

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  One Big Family... Except For When You Need Them

  by pale.emperor in

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  when i was in, we all used to claim us jw's were "one big family" all around the world, and how we're the happiest people on the earth.

  except that isnt true is it?

  i knew that when i was in, but i've just had some news which shows me how unloving, uncaring and un-family like they really are.. my ex-best friend (he has to shun me doesn't he?

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  That is how it was when we pioneered, even through there were 10 other pioneers in the hall we were dumped on all the time, we lived on nothing no help from anyone so I got a job there is no reason the wife cannot. I worked 35 plus hours and put in 90 a month in service. It was hell and I hated every minute of it but I was told I was doing Jehovah's will and too keep my blinders on, the other pioneers were mostly wives who's husband were selfish and they burned through their money so when it came to using their cars for service they could not afford to but hey there were my husband and I to dump on,

  My husband would get 7 people in our small Honda Civic that we bought with my tip money from work. It was crazy not enough seat belts but they did not care as long as they did not have to use their money for gas it was all good with them. Also I had no say in the matter after all I was just a stupid women and when I voiced that it was not safe to pack out our car my husband always shot back that everyone who showed up at the hall had to go out and it was the best he could do, We beat the crud out of that car with so many in it.

  The places we lived in were dumps but I was told Jehovah provided. If this couple is young maybe this is a good thing as they might wake up and not waste so much of their lives like I did.

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  Hope deferred

  by life is to short in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  proverbs 13:12 "hope deferred makes the heart sick, but a longing fulfilled is a tree of life.

  i have heard this before from dave ramesy about finances and how if you can never see an end in sight to get out of debt, if you always are making nothing to live on and getting nowhere with no hope of it ever changing, you just give up.

  thank god's it's friday and oh god it's monday breaks your spirit.. i was reading this book by henry cloud and he expounds on this and says "there are few sicknesses of the heart like hope deferred.

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  LHG ones like you did not bother me in the least, the ones who bothered me, upset me were the ones who pioneered but could not work, many lived on welfare or got what ever state help they could. They rode around with us in service, many of them we had to pick up and take back home. None of them could afford to give us a dime for gas but they all had really bad health and would tell me that Jehovah had given me good health so working was not hard for me.

  The most they could do was an hour or two in service before they had to take a break and somehow they had money to buy hamburgers and sodas, chips, candy bars, etc though like I said they could not afford to give us a dime for gas and I am not joking. One sister I finally confronted as when my husband would drop me off for work she would wine to him for her to take her out longer as she lived two house past us in the country. She would say she just needed to go home and veg out. One time I just got sick of it and told her she needed to give me something for gas, She dug in her purse and gave me five dimes which she counted out very slowly. I took them all. Another sister made the loud announcement as soon as she plopped into our car that she was giving me a dollar as she and her husband had only $5.00 dollars to last them to the end of the month and it was only the 15th. She must have forgotten because around noon she said she was starving and had not had time to pack a lunch so we had to stop and she spent over $5.00 on lunch. I sat in the car while she went in because I felt so stupid going into a place and not being able to afford anything. She took everything to go and sat and ate it in front of me. I was so mad I threw my sandwich out the window as it just made me sick to my stomach and I just could not eat. It just really hurt.

  Another pioneer couple who were very, very, very broke bought a brand new car and parked it one to 2 blocks away so as to not get door dings on it and only took their family in service in it but rode around all the time in ours. The husband told us that he did not feel he needed to give us gas money because all we did was just pass the proverbial dollar around.

  LHG honestly ones like you were not even on my radar, I never even gave those who were not pioneering a true thought because I was just trying to survive pioneering. We had 10 pioneers and they were all free loaders. There were many in the hall who did not pioneer but I was just not around them and when I was I just never gave the fact that they were not pioneering a thought.

  I was just trying to keep my head above the water with working 30 plus hours a week and putting in 90 for service. Looking back now I do not know why I did not judge those who worked full time, but I just did't I judged those who were pioneering and treated me like crap, and I did not really judge them I just was really hurt by them.

  Also my husband and I qualified for government help but I would never take a dime as I thought I put myself in this place and I was not going to let the government take care of me, nor did I ever go around acting poor. I have since learned that many thought I had money because I never complained.

  This religion just is so hurtful.

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  Life is changing for me: no pioneering, got a job!

  by Skepsis in

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  a month ago i decided to register in this board.

  i had decided to step down pioneering but was frightened about the consequences.

  i had finished my university degree some months before (despite disaproval from brothers in my congregation) and i had to choose: continue pioneering and working in jobs with no future or starting a career, working full-time.. i was thinking to postpone the decisiton but... i was fed up with preaching.

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  LisaRose and ATJ gave such great advice, I loved LisaRose when she said it is your life, also becareful of who you make as friends outside. I know I jumped so fast that I made friends with ones who did not have my best interests at heart. I was naive and learned the hard way. Take your time, you are young and enjoy your life, don't let them rob you of it anymore.

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  baptised nearly 51 years

  by Phoebe in

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  been reading this site for awhile now.

  i have had a long and often tragic life as a jw.

  my story is so long because i'm pretty old :) i feel sad i've been locked in fear and guilt for my entire life.

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  if I dropped dead in the K.H no one would notice

  Your words there make me so sad, but it's true I have felt the exact same way. When I pioneered I passed out in service once and crawled to the car, no one came to check on me so I thought they did not know I had passed out. Nope they knew, the sister I was with told me she heard me fall, never came to check it I was OK. My husband had a major heart attack at the KH I drove him alone to the hospital with another elder knowing and only asking if I would be OK no one came to the hospital to be with me expect that elder and then he got upset when I called him the next day to talk as he was busy, my husband was an elder at the time himself.

  My heart breaks for you. My sister started to shun me while I was still an elder's wife I have not spoken to her for over 11 years.

  It is just so sad and welcome you need support.

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